Curse

ogre_jd · Mar 16, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

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Originally Posted by Marverick

Well, you really shouldn't be running Monk rez spells on a Warrior...

<SARCASM>Yes, after all, the primary Monks in the party will never die and there's never a chance that everyone'll run out of Resurrection Signet with a morale boost too far away, so having another reusable source of resurrection around is clearly a waste.</SARCASM>

Tyla · Mar 16, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

If your "primary Monks" are dying in PvE, there's no way you're going to survive with a Monk Hardres.
p.s: /Rit gogo.

MasterSasori · Mar 16, 2008, 07:07 PM // 19:07

Wammo is part mentality and build similarity.

The typical Wammo generally carry certain heal spells that are looked down upon in the gw community, particularly [skill]mending[/skill] and [skill]healing breeze[/skill]. The build is set up more of a survival/tank build than a damage build, which a warrior should be.

The behavioral aspect of Wammos is the urge to pull every red dot on the compass without realizing the consequences of such an act. This puts incredible strain on the team and just pisses people off. They also blame the healers for not keeping them alive and tell teammates they are going too slow. Arrogant ones will state how they never die and how they are so awesome in PvE and PvP.

RedNova88 · Mar 19, 2008, 05:50 AM // 05:50

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Originally Posted by MasterSasori

Wammo is part mentality and build similarity.

The typical Wammo generally carry certain heal spells that are looked down upon in the gw community, particularly [skill]mending[/skill] and [skill]healing breeze[/skill]. The build is set up more of a survival/tank build than a damage build, which a warrior should be.

The behavioral aspect of Wammos is the urge to pull every red dot on the compass without realizing the consequences of such an act. This puts incredible strain on the team and just pisses people off. They also blame the healers for not keeping them alive and tell teammates they are going too slow. Arrogant ones will state how they never die and how they are so awesome in PvE and PvP.

Yep, I'm sure the majority of us have either been one of these people, or met them at one time. I remember when I was trying to get my second Warrior a run to Droks so I could get max armor for my survivor character... Well we were standing in Snakes Dance I think, waiting for the Dervish to get us to the next zone. He had some trouble so the Warrior next to us goes "I've got the best build ever, I can tank these things in HM!". He runs up and puts Mending on, then Healing Breeze and then charges in and behold then he puts HEALING HANDS on himself... and a second or two after it expires he dies then starts whining and ranting like it wasn't supposed to happen. I still don't think he was as bad as me when I tried to run a W/N with Blood Renewal and Siphon Life, and Flurry when I first started playing.

Taurucis · Mar 19, 2008, 12:58 PM // 12:58

It's always going to be a portion of idiots who ruin the game for the rest of us.

I started as a W/E with a cowardly elementalist mentality. I wouldn't aggro anything, people always had to tell me "come on kai start tanking" before I went in, I brought Meteor Shower, Flame Burst, and Phoenix into every zone believing that I was a warrior-mage... I even had a Fire Wand that I sometimes used instead of a sword.

These days however, I only use /E for Conjure Frost, sometimes a snare as well when I'm ABing (Winter's Embrace or Water Trident). I've stopped packing defensive skills and stances, I go for all-out damage these days.

When I'm playing my warrior in PvE, there are 5 things I'm watching at all times: My health/energy, my party health, the enemies, my hex/enchantment/condition window, and most above all, my aggro circle. Heroes and henchmen aren't the best at running away due to overaggro so if I even think a patrol's getting too close, I back away, whip out my longbow, and start plinking arrows at the current mob.

I'd say that the most important place to be watching on your Guild Wars screen as a warrior, is your minimap. Watch the patrols, watch your aggro, watch where your team is. If you're surrounded by red dots, and green dots are out of your aggro circle, you're already screwed.

MasterSasori · Mar 19, 2008, 04:40 PM // 16:40

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Originally Posted by RedNova88

I still don't think he was as bad as me when I tried to run a W/N with Blood Renewal and Siphon Life, and Flurry when I first started playing.

I would much rather have someone with a subpar build but common sense than someone with a good build but intoxicated with idiocy. I'm definitely not referring to breeze/mending/hands as a good build (by FAR) but trying to make the point that someone with a subpar build is less efficient for the team (who cares its PvE) but at least they don't put the team in jeopardy by overaggroing or not paying attention.

Cebe · Mar 19, 2008, 04:50 PM // 16:50

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Originally Posted by ntherblast

Hey so I was at the Iron Mines of Moladune. I was looking for mission and bonus this monk invites me then tells me to kick my monk so I did. Then he kicks me and whisper and says your just another wammo who follows the sterotype. I am a W/P and I was the only one in the party with him. So I am wondering what this wammo sterotype actually is.

In my view, these days, a wammo is not simply a warrior/monk, it's an idiotic player. The word is becomming as utilised to describe the inept and stupid as "noob" is. This occured to me a while back when I found people shouting at others in PuGs for being a "dumb wammo", or "wammo charging in" etc... The word "wammo" is applied to many stupid things in game these days, though, is primarily still aimed toward warriors to be fair.

To be honest if you'd just joined a PuG and hadn't pinged a build or said anything ... "wammoish" (read: stupid) ... then your kicking from the group and the PM were unjustified. Don't take it too much to heart.

Seeing as this is a wammo-related thread...time for the obligatory photo. A reminder to all wammos out there to keep looking over their shoulder.

Tyla · Mar 19, 2008, 04:53 PM // 16:53

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

I love you for this picture.

MasterSasori · Mar 19, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

LOL. Off-topic but a great laugh.

Kale Ironfist · Mar 20, 2008, 07:02 AM // 07:02

Why must your guild NOT be Wammo Hunter Organisation? WHY?!

...and I concur with the statements of Celestial Beaver, the 5th Celestial boss.

kvndoom · Mar 20, 2008, 03:46 PM // 15:46

Man, you guys all forgot Balthazar's Spirit for energy management. Wammo is just a lost art these days.

lactatemike · Mar 21, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37

lol

The wammo build with mending and healing hands was actually good for one thing when factions came out. You could solo farm wardens as long as you avoided the mesmers with that build. Before loot scaling got so terrible and before hard mode, that used to be a great way to get some gold.

MasterSasori · Mar 21, 2008, 03:19 AM // 03:19

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Originally Posted by lactatemike

lol

The wammo build with mending and healing hands was actually good for one thing when factions came out. You could solo farm wardens as long as you avoided the mesmers with that build. Before loot scaling got so terrible and before hard mode, that used to be a great way to get some gold.

I'd much rather prefer a 55 or 330...

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 21, 2008, 03:43 AM // 03:43

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Originally Posted by lactatemike

lol

The wammo build with mending and healing hands was actually good for one thing when factions came out. You could solo farm wardens as long as you avoided the mesmers with that build. Before loot scaling got so terrible and before hard mode, that used to be a great way to get some gold.

i remember doing that on my warrior

Crom The Pale · Mar 21, 2008, 03:56 AM // 03:56

There is one map where I have found the wammo build to be more effective than most expect. On the Mirror of lyss.

[skill]mending[/skill][skill]Watchful Spirit[/skill] will grant you a tiny heal but more importantly by maintaining both you have 0energy regen and can have 0 energy the entire time your on this map.

Why you ask?

Roaring Ether's! They primarily use [skill]Energy Surge[/skill] and [skill]energy burn[/skill]. Not to mention the decrease in degen burning will have on you. If your good at timing/agro you can get all of the Ether's to waste thier E-Surge on the war for 0 dmg, saving the party from taking 100-300 AoE armor ignoreing damage.

Chthon · Mar 21, 2008, 04:18 AM // 04:18

Wammo's aren't bad so much because they use mending...

...or because they think it makes them invincible...

..but because they just have to aggro everything in sight.

A mending wammo could be an adequate addition to most NM PvE groups if only they comprehend how that little radar doodad works. Too bad they rarely do. For the record, one of the best warriors I ever saw was a mending wammo back when Factions was relatively new. I'm sure she's W/P godmode now like everyone else, but it sure was something to see back then.

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

There is one map where I have found the wammo build to be more effective than most expect. On the Mirror of lyss.

[skill]mending[/skill][skill]Watchful Spirit[/skill] will grant you a tiny heal but more importantly by maintaining both you have 0energy regen and can have 0 energy the entire time your on this map.

Why you ask?

Roaring Ether's! They primarily use [skill]Energy Surge[/skill] and [skill]energy burn[/skill]. Not to mention the decrease in degen burning will have on you. If your good at timing/agro you can get all of the Ether's to waste thier E-Surge on the war for 0 dmg, saving the party from taking 100-300 AoE armor ignoreing damage.

Lol! Hadn't thought of that. Brilliant!

blue.rellik · Mar 21, 2008, 02:00 PM // 14:00

Bring Succor and chuck it on the healers. That's a much better idea

Winterclaw · Mar 21, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

If your "primary Monks" are dying in PvE, there's no way you're going to survive with a Monk Hardres.
p.s: /Rit gogo.

If your primary monks are dying in PvE, you are doing something way wrong.

And a whammo is the GW version of the term Leeroy Jenkins.

Toa Hahli · Mar 22, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03

The ONLY Monk skill that ever touches my bar on my warrior nowadays is Mending Touch. Back when i first started, yes i thought Mending was awesome. After you hit lvl 6 and stuff starts hitting harder youll get it passed through your head thats its Terrible!

Age · Mar 22, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59

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Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

When I'm in a group, It really ticks me off when warriors don't charge into battle. It's like... hurry up, I want to get fighting and I'm not going to run in on my caster. That's the warriors job. Then the warrior takes out a bow and starts pulling the mob into our group... WTF!!! Now I have to spend my time kiting melee instead of dishing damage... just go /Mo and sit in a mob all day so we can actually kill stuff IMO. If you monks cant heal/prot one player while he tanks, it just might now be the warriors problems that you have to worry about, maybe you should be looking in the direction of your back-line.

I'm not saying Wammos are good... Personally i think the bar is terriBAED.. what I am saying is the mentality aint all bad. I prefer to play with people like that.

Also... [skill]mending touch[/skill] = pro

Yeah.You could also use [skill]Mend Ailment[/skill] or [skill]Purge Signet[/skill]I used mend ailment before getting mending touch.